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Meeting of the Parliament 18 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 18, 2014
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP)

I am still somewhat confused. I heard what the cabinet secretary just said and what he said in his opening speech about the Conservative amendment, but neither of the Conservative Party speakers could properly explain the amendment. I have read it again to ensure that I am not making a mistake. It says that

“the ... penalties imposed should be proportionate”,

but neither speaker could say clearly what that means. I remain very concerned about the implications of the Conservative amendment.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener (Stewart Maxwell)

Good morning and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2014 of the Education and Culture Committee. I remind all those present to switch off their electronic devices, please—particularly mobile phones—as they interfere with the broadcasting system.

The first agenda item is a decision whether to consider items 4 and 5 in private and whether to consider our work programme and draft report on the draft budget in private at future meetings. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

Today, we will hear evidence as part of our scrutiny of the Scottish Government’s draft budget for 2015-16, which is focusing on school spending. We will hear evidence from two panels of witnesses. We will start with the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, after which we will hear from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning and the Minister for Local Government and Planning.

I welcome to the meeting John Stodter, the general secretary of the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland; Councillor Douglas Chapman, spokesperson for education, children and young people at COSLA; and Robert Nicol, chief officer in the children and young people team at COSLA. Good morning to you all.

I thank you very much for your written submissions, which I am sure committee members looked at over the weekend. They are very useful in having set out your views.

We have quite a lot to get through, so we will move straight to questions from members. I should indicate that I will suspend the meeting at 10.45 so that members can go down to the garden lobby to take part in the remembrance day commemoration event. We will conclude the first panel’s evidence between now and 10.45; we will not bring that panel back after the suspension. Thank you very much for your forbearance on that.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

The first line of the submission from ADES says:

“Education services will require to make significant further savings over the coming years of the order of several percent of current spend”.

What do you mean by

“several percent of current spend”?

Do you mean that inflation will have that effect or do you mean that there will be less cash? Is it a real-terms problem or a cash problem?



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

Are the 3 per cent efficiency savings that local authorities are required to make part of that?



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

Local authorities keep those savings.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

Excuse me if you think that you are answering the question, Mr Nicol, but I am still not clear whether your expectation is that there will be cuts in the cash for education, or whether it will be a standstill cash budget and therefore inflation is the issue. Just to be absolutely clear, is the draft budget a standstill budget in cash terms?



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

It is not a reduction in the amount of money that you have to spend.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

I think that we just agreed that, in cash terms, the settlement is a standstill budget. You may have to spend that money on more things, which is perhaps what you are saying, Mr Stodter.



Education and Culture Committee 11 November 2014 : Tuesday, November 11, 2014
The Convener

Now we are getting down to the point that I was trying to get a hold on. The budget that is provided by the Scottish Government—the draft budget—is the same as last year in cash terms, but are local authorities deciding that education will suffer a budget cut in cash terms?

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S4M-11507.1 Cameron Buchanan: Progressive Workplace Policies to Boost Productivity, Growth and Jobs—
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S4M-11507 Angela Constance: Progressive Workplace Policies to Boost Productivity, Growth and Jobs—Th
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S4M-11494.3 Jackie Baillie: Welfare Benefits for People Living with Disabilities—As an amendment to
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S4M-11494.2 Alex Johnstone: Welfare Benefits for People Living with Disabilities—As an amendment to
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S4M-11494 Margaret Burgess: Welfare Benefits for People Living with Disabilities—That the Parliament
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S4M-11484.1 Jackson Carlaw: Human Rights—As an amendment to motion S4M-11484 in the name of Roseanna
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Motion S4M-11504: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 11/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11165: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 09/10/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10707: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 01/08/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10706: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 31/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10612: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 15/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10542: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 03/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10288: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 11/06/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10235: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 05/06/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10113: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 21/05/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10070: Stewart Maxwell, West Scotland, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 15/05/2014 Show Full Motion >>
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