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Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind)

Good afternoon, panel. My question is a general one for all the witnesses. Although it is not bang on subject, it is relevant, as it relates to HMI’s report “Thematic Inspection of Police Custody Arrangements in Scotland”. There are four references in the report to the wellbeing of foreign nationals. There is mention of access to interpreting facilities and reading materials. It states:

“Police Scotland needs to work with partners to introduce robust and proportionate processes to ensure that foreign national offenders are managed appropriately.”

How does that issue touch on each of your jobs? There must be challenges connected with that.



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

The issue will of course not just be during the booking-in period. There will be an on-going issue if someone is detained over the weekend, for instance, perhaps for Mr Diamond’s staff.



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

Thank you. That is reassuring.



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

Can I ask a supplementary on that point?



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

Mr Stewart and I met officers to talk about the different arrangements that applied in the previous forces. We were given an example in which officers had engaged with someone who was to be taken into custody. All had been amicably transacted—there were no hands on, and the individual was totally compliant. However, because of revised guidelines, the officers had to restrain the individual at the charge bar. That fundamentally changed what had been a consensual and compliant engagement. Is that what you are alluding to, Mr Cowie?



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

That is very reassuring—thank you.



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

I will be very brief. I have a question for Mr Laidlaw. Are you allowed access to national health service staff working in the custody areas? Can you speak to them?



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

That is lovely, thanks.

I have a brief question for Mr Cowie. First, thanks for recommendation 9, which is about

“the solicitor access recording form”

and, in particular,

“the Letter of Rights”.

It is good that that is highlighted and I hope that it will be picked up on. Are more people detained than used to be? That is certainly my perception.



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

Are you able to say whether more people are now detained to appear in court rather than released for citation?



Justice Sub-Committee on Policing 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
John Finnie

Finally, a decision was recently made to reduce the number of legalised cells. Excuse my ignorance—I do not recall whether it is mentioned in the report—but is that touched on? The same cell could be discharging a different function. Would the scheme apply if the cell was being used as a legalised cell as distinct from a police custody cell?

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S4M-11123 Joe FitzPatrick on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau: Business Motion—That the Parliament
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S4M-11114.2 Kenny MacAskill: Policing—As an amendment to motion S4M-11114 in the name of Graeme Pear
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YesCarried

S4M-11114 Graeme Pearson: Policing—That the Parliament acknowledges that policing in Scotland contin
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S4M-11116.1.1 Patrick Harvie: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to amendment S4M-11116.1 in the name
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S4M-11116.1 Nicola Sturgeon: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to motion S4M-11116 in the name of Jo
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S4M-11116 Johann Lamont: Scotland’s Future—That the Parliament recognises the result of the independ
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Amendment 61 moved by Elaine Murray on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland) Bi
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Amendment 62 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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Amendment 63 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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Amendment 64 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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