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  • Member for: Dundee City West
  • Region: North East Scotland
  • Party: Scottish National Party

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Meeting of the Parliament 21 January 2015 : Wednesday, January 21, 2015
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick)

Can the member tell us whether this is new money or a reannouncement of money? What is her view? She cannot have it both ways.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick)

First of all, I thank the committee for highlighting a positive trend. It is helpful to us in Government and our officials that that is recognised.

We want that trend to continue. Obviously, we need to do our best to keep our standards as high as possible, and we have put a few things in place. It is a continuing development. We have detailed guidance for our policy teams that is constantly reviewed to ensure that there is best practice and that changes in the law and the committee’s comments are taken into account in the advice that we give to officials. The quarterly seminars on Scottish statutory instruments for officials have also been very successful, and we will continue them. The clerks have been very helpful in taking part in them.

A major point is to keep that continuing improvement on-going. That is our intention. I thank the committee very much for recognising the progress that has been made to date.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

That is not really significant; it is just the way that things have fallen. Different pieces of legislation will have different requirements for instruments. There is no underlying trend. Sometimes very complex laws have fewer secondary legislation requirements whereas what looks like a non-complex piece of primary legislation might require quite a lot of secondary legislation. As I said, there is no underlying trend.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

We have put in place mechanisms to ensure that, across the organisation, people understand this committee’s desire not to have such spikes and to try to manage them down. Looking forward, we do not envisage any major spikes, but we are coming towards the end of the parliamentary session, when there is always a particular pressure. We have already started the process of alerting bill teams of that and making it clear that we need to do our best not to end up with a big spike at the end of the session that would put a huge pressure on the committee.

Paul Cackette will say a bit more about how we are managing the process.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

Yes. Guidance on managing the process in the best way possible is already at the planning stage, and that strong guidance will go out to bill teams and officials to ensure that they do their best. Obviously I cannot guarantee that there will be no spike at the end of the parliamentary session in 2016, but we are alert to the situation and we will do our best.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

We have flagged the issue up with Mr Mundell, who has taken it back in good faith. However, I point out that officials in the UK Government, too, can face significant pressure from changes to the legislative programme, Opposition amendments and so on. Some things are not entirely within the UK Government’s gift, but my understanding is that Mr Mundell is doing his best to ensure that other Government departments are alert to the different timings that this Parliament works under.

It will remain an issue, but we will continue to flag the issue up with Mr Mundell; he will continue to flag it up with Government departments; and I hope that the issue will not arise more often than it needs to. There will be times when, for various reasons, the different timescales will conflict.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

We have taken on board the concerns that the committee expressed just prior to my appearance last year, when certain issues arose, and I hope that since then we have tried to ensure that those issues have not arisen again.

My bottom line in the remarks that I make to bill teams before a bill is introduced is that they should do absolutely everything possible not to bring in new powers at stage 3, because it puts pressure on this committee, and we have managed to manage that situation.

The other point that I would make is that, when the committee has made it clear that it would not be possible for it to look at certain powers, we have extended timescales to ensure that it can do so. We need to work together as much as possible, and I will try—within the powers that I have, of course; I cannot foresee everything that might appear—to ensure that the pressures that you experienced two years ago do not happen again.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

The point is well made, and my message to bill teams is that, unless there are exceptional circumstances, they really should not be introducing new powers at stage 3. When such measures have to be brought in, I certainly appreciate the work that this committee and the Finance Committee carry out in looking at them. We need to ensure that you have the time to do your job, which is, after all, part of the process. We must remember that, at the end of the day, this is all about getting legislation that works and which is robust—that is in everyone’s interests.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

I will do my best to stop you growling, convener.



Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee 16 December 2014 : Tuesday, December 16, 2014
Joe FitzPatrick

Obviously, the first packages came under the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012, and we all learned a lot from that process.

Last year, I said that the next major package would be for the implementation of the Marriage and Civil Partnership (Scotland) Act 2014. That example shows that we have learned the lessons. That process is what we should aim for in everything, working with the clerks to this committee and to other committees. However, there have been areas in which we have not worked quite as well as we should for particular reasons.

It is a question of communication between the committee and our officials to ensure that we all understand what we are trying to do and the processes around packages. There are a few more packages coming up, and we have continuing meetings to ensure that officials liaise with clerks as part of the process, so that there are no surprises, which is one of the important things.

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S4M-12182.1 Alex Fergusson: The Chilcot Inquiry—As an amendment to motion S4M-12182 in the name of N
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S4M-12182 Nicola Sturgeon: The Chilcot Inquiry—That the Parliament calls for Sir John Chilcot’s offi
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YesCarried

S4M-12176 John Swinney: Community Charge Debt (Scotland) Bill—That the Parliament agrees to the gene
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YesCarried

S4M-12160.2 Michael Matheson: Women Offenders—As an amendment to motion S4M-12160 in the name of Kez
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YesCarried

S4M-12160.3 Margaret Mitchell: Women Offenders—As an amendment to motion S4M-12160 in the name of Ke
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NoDefeated

S4M-12160 Kezia Dugdale: Women Offenders—That the Parliament welcomes the decision of the Scottish G
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YesCarried

S4M-12154.1 Lewis Macdonald: Partnership Action for Continuing Employment (PACE) – Supporting Indivi
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NoDefeated

S4M-12120.1 Jenny Marra: 2020 Vision, the Strategic Forward Direction of the NHS—As an amendment to
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NoDefeated

S4M-12101 John Swinney: Budget (Scotland) (No.4) Bill—That the Parliament agrees to the general prin
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YesCarried

S4M-12095.4 Ken Macintosh: Tackling Inequalities—As an amendment to motion S4M-12095 in the name of
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NoDefeated

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Motion S4M-12183: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 27/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12168: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 27/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12166: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 27/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12165: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 27/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12164: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 27/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12134: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 21/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12108: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 20/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12107: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 20/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12106: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 20/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-12104: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, On Behalf of Parliamentary Bureau, Date Lodged: 20/01/2015 Show Full Motion >>
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Question S4F-00804: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 25/06/2012 Show Full Question >>
Question S4F-00742: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 31/05/2012 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-01042: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 16/05/2012 Show Full Question >>
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Question S4O-00919: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 18/04/2012 Show Full Question >>
Question S4F-00387: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 09/01/2012 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-00537: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 07/12/2011 Show Full Question >>
Question S4F-00325: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 05/12/2011 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-00500: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 30/11/2011 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-00470: Joe FitzPatrick, Dundee City West, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 23/11/2011 Show Full Question >>

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