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Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)

Can the cabinet secretary confirm what support is available in the budget to help to meet the Scottish Government’s climate change targets?



Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
3. Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)

To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs regarding employment in Scotland. (S4O-03593)



Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

It is the question that I have on mine, Presiding Officer, and it is the one that I lodged.



Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

I am over my brief confusion, Presiding Officer.

HMRC has suggested that it is going to outsource mailroom facilities at its location in Cumbernauld. That threatens 40 jobs. Of course, that is just the tip of the iceberg, with the Public and Commercial Services union suggesting that HMRC will shed thousands of jobs in coming years. Does the minister agree that that undermines local economies where HMRC is located, such as Cumbernauld, and also undermines HMRC’s ability to collect tax?



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)

In your paper, you say that the Scottish rate of income tax will operate in effect as a flat tax, because the Scottish Government cannot vary the rates differently, which

“implicitly leaves income redistribution as a reserved issue for the UK Government.”

You also say that

“this may undermine the extent to which the Scotland Act proposals really meet the desire for greater fiscal policy autonomy.”

Can you explain what you mean by that?



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

You have touched on the problems that could be associated with asymmetric growth in the tax base, which we have discussed before. You describe it as the Scottish Government bearing the full risks associated with that, but you also say:

“The corollary of this of course is that the Scottish Government is fully incentivised to grow the income tax base.”

Do you agree that control of the Scottish rate of income tax alone will not really give the Scottish Government much power to achieve that aim? The Scottish Government will still not have control over immigration and other matters.



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

Mr Eiser has provided a useful bridge to my next question. Your paper talks about the reduction in welfare spending and says:

“The UK welfare state is seen as the key element in the risk sharing and resource pooling mechanisms that are seen as a defining characteristic of the Union. Thus the Labour proposals talk of ‘rights enshrined at UK level that should be paid for from UK taxes’, the Liberal Democrats talk of maintaining the UK’s social welfare union. The Conservatives describe this social union as ‘hugely important to what glues us [the UK] together’.

In this context, it is unclear to what extent welfare devolution is compatible with these principles.”

You make it pretty clear that social security is unlikely to be devolved, but we know that the welfare changes are likely to push 100,000 more children in Scotland into poverty by 2020, that 100,000 disabled people are being affected and that 80,000 households have been hit by the bedroom tax. The Tories talk about what glues us together; we will be stuck in the glue if we get no further devolution. Do you not see the devolution of social security to any extent as a serious prospect?



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

If I have taken anything from the experience of my political activity over the past few months, it is a sense that the people out there want to have a greater say in the factors that determine their lives. The bill is, therefore, hugely welcome if it can do anything to achieve that aim.

I have some sympathy with what the bill team is saying. If any bill was going to present us with a financial memorandum that found it hard to cost the proposals, it is this one. We are talking about empowering people, but we do not know how they are going to respond, so it must be difficult to quantify the exact costs.

I was taken with a turn of phrase that Ian Turner used. You talked about it being difficult to establish a demand profile. If you had said what the demand would be and what the bill would cost, could there have been a danger that that would have been viewed as an upper limit for how much could be done, which might have been viewed as being the opposite of empowerment?



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

Those are some of the difficulties. My point was more that, even if you attempt to come up with a set of figures, whether they show low demand, high demand or something in between, the danger is that people will think that that is what they have to work with. However, the process cannot really work that way, because if it is to be in the hands of people out there, they sort of lead, do they not?



Finance Committee 08 October 2014 : Wednesday, October 08, 2014
Jamie Hepburn

So, the number is not a measure of success: 15 cases in a year is not an upper limit and does not mean that other communities will have to come back next year. The community right to buy is a good parallel, as it is led at community level, I presume.

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S4M-11123 Joe FitzPatrick on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau: Business Motion—That the Parliament
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S4M-11114.2 Kenny MacAskill: Policing—As an amendment to motion S4M-11114 in the name of Graeme Pear
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S4M-11114 Graeme Pearson: Policing—That the Parliament acknowledges that policing in Scotland contin
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S4M-11116.1.1 Patrick Harvie: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to amendment S4M-11116.1 in the name
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S4M-11116.1 Nicola Sturgeon: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to motion S4M-11116 in the name of Jo
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S4M-11116 Johann Lamont: Scotland’s Future—That the Parliament recognises the result of the independ
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Amendment 61 moved by Elaine Murray on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland) Bi
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Amendment 62 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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Amendment 63 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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Amendment 64 moved by Margaret Mitchell on motion S4M-11101 Kenny MacAskill: Courts Reform (Scotland
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Motion S4M-10681: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 29/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10537: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 03/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10387: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 18/06/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10280: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 10/06/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09496: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 26/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09452: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 24/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09421: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 20/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09337: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 13/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09278: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 07/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-09249: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 05/03/2014 Show Full Motion >>
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Question S4T-00803: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 06/10/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03593: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 30/09/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03563: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 22/09/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03531: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 17/09/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-22406: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 19/08/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03481: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 11/08/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03454: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 06/08/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03407: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 16/06/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-21733: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 12/06/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-21679: Jamie Hepburn, Cumbernauld and Kilsyth, Scottish National Party, Date Lodged: 08/06/2014 Show Full Question >>

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