Drew Smith MSP

Welcome to Drew Smith MSP's biography pages

Parliamentary Activities

Search for other Speeches made by Drew Smith

Devolution (Further Powers) Committee 11 December 2014 : Thursday, December 11, 2014
Drew Smith

If you could humour me for a moment, convener, I have another question. I would say that it is quite easy to be radical in a political debate about things over which you have no power or responsibility. That is an easy form of radicalism. When Lord Smith was before the committee, he said that there is a need for both Governments to be clearer about what they do. Are there any international examples of that? Do subcentral levels of government that work more effectively than our own have the same tendency to spend time talking about the issues that they do not control?



Devolution (Further Powers) Committee 11 December 2014 : Thursday, December 11, 2014
Drew Smith

It is very interesting to unpack what people mean when they say that they support more powers for the Scottish Parliament. That is at the heart of this.

David Heald said that there seems to be a more sympathetic attitude to welfare in Scotland. Does anyone have any academic evidence on attitudes to welfare in Scotland and whether they are significantly different? The only evidence of which I am aware is that of Professor Curtice, who says that the attitudes in Scotland and the UK are broadly the same.



Devolution (Further Powers) Committee 11 December 2014 : Thursday, December 11, 2014
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)

We have had an interesting discussion. I am reminded of the argument that, although the British constitution may not always work well in theory, it has served us reasonably well in practice. Our constitutional status is a contested issue—I think that we hear that in the reactions of my fellow committee members—and that puts us in a different situation from some of the relationships that you have described that exist elsewhere in the world. Although I agree with a lot of what has been said about the need for institutions to be able to demonstrate balance and be seen as fair arbiters in the process, whether it is about taxation, policy or whatever, it would be interesting to know what we can learn either from elsewhere or from your own experience.

Professor Keating said earlier that the issue of independence had been settled in September. It was a very brave thing for him to say in the Scottish Parliament. If I say that in the chamber, it provokes a reaction. It is, frankly, the elephant in the room in this whole issue.

We can of course debate the workability of specific proposals for devolution, but it seems to me that there are two distinct issues. One is that the constitution itself is politically contested, so a resolution to some of this through institutional architecture is unlikely to work. The second issue is incentives. I have no doubt that the Scottish Government genuinely wants to pursue a course through all this that will not leave Scotland disadvantaged. However, it has no incentive to find a constitutional relationship or constitutional architecture that works, because it does not believe that there should be a UK constitutional framework.



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

But you—



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

You have to demonstrate that.



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

The Deputy First Minister is very kind.

The Deputy First Minister said that Mr Macdonald’s description of a stronger Scottish Parliament in a stronger United Kingdom was Mr Macdonald’s position. However, does he not accept that that was the position that was voted for by the majority of people in Scotland, and that it is the SNP’s bad faith and poor tone in response to the entire Smith commission process that undermine people’s belief that the SNP genuinely accepts the result?



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

I am sorry, but will the Deputy First Minister give way on that point?



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

Is Mr Mason, as an independently minded back bencher, closer to Christine Grahame’s view or John Swinney’s view on whether the document should have been signed? I simply ask him whether he would have signed it.



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

I am grateful that Mr Harvie has given me the opportunity to clarify this matter. We have said that we support the section 30 approach for votes at 16; indeed, Margaret Curran has gone further and said that we would be prepared to consider other areas where primary legislation would not be required. I was not arguing what Mr Harvie has suggested I was arguing.



Meeting of the Parliament 10 December 2014 : Wednesday, December 10, 2014
Drew Smith

Does Mr McMillan agree with Christine Grahame that Mr Swinney was wrong to sign the agreement?

Vote DetailMSP VoteResult

S4M-11901.3 Neil Findlay: Developing Scotland’s Young Workforce—As an amendment to motion S4M-11901
>> Show more
YesDefeated

S4M-11901.1 Mary Scanlon: Developing Scotland’s Young Workforce—As an amendment to motion S4M-11901
>> Show more
YesDefeated

S4M-11830.2 John Swinney: The Smith Commission—As an amendment to motion S4M-11830 in the name of Ru
>> Show more
NoCarried

S4M-11830 Ruth Davidson: The Smith Commission—That the Parliament welcomes the publication of the Sm
>> Show more
NoCarried

Amendment 6 moved by Dr Richard Simpson on motion S4M-11826 Maureen Watt: Food (Scotland) Bill—That
>> Show more
YesDefeated

S4M-11825.3 Claire Baker: End of Year Fish Negotiations—As an amendment to motion S4M-11825 in the n
>> Show more
YesDefeated

S4M-11825.2 Jamie McGrigor: End of Year Fish Negotiations—As an amendment to motion S4M-11825 in the
>> Show more
YesDefeated

S4M-11825.1 Tavish Scott: End of Year Fish Negotiations—As an amendment to motion S4M-11825 in the n
>> Show more
AbstainDefeated

S4M-11825 Richard Lochhead: End of Year Fish Negotiations—That the Parliament welcomes the successfu
>> Show more
AbstainCarried

S4M-11763.3 Margaret Burgess: Private Sector Rent Reform—As an amendment to motion S4M-11763 in the
>> Show more
Not VotedCarried

Search for other Motions lodged by Drew Smith
EventIdTypeSub TypeMSP NameParty NameConstituencyRegionTitleItemTextFormattedAnswer DateAnswerStatusIdExpectedAnswerDateAnsweredByMspApprovedDateSubmissionDateMeetingDateProductionStatusIdRecordStatusIdStatus DateOnBehalfOfConsideredForMembersBusinessCrossPartySupportRegisteredInterestSupportCountSupportDateIsEventLinkCurrentMinister
Motion S4M-11918: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 16/12/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11749: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 28/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11730: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 27/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11564: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 14/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11563: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 14/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11562: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 14/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11561: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 14/11/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11140: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 08/10/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-11130: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 07/10/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Motion S4M-10682: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 29/07/2014 Show Full Motion >>
Search for other Questions asked by Drew Smith
EventIdTypeSub TypeMSP NameParty NameConstituencyRegionTitleItemTextFormattedAnswer DateAnswerStatusIdExpectedAnswerDateAnsweredByMspApprovedDateSubmissionDateMeetingDateProductionStatusIdRecordStatusIdStatus DateOnBehalfOfConsideredForMembersBusinessCrossPartySupportRegisteredInterestSupportCountSupportDateIsEventLinkCurrentMinister
Question S4W-23680: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 12/12/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23561: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 05/12/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4O-03797: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 03/12/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23297: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 20/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23301: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 20/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23298: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 20/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23294: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 20/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23296: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 20/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23258: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 19/11/2014 Show Full Question >>
Question S4W-23260: Drew Smith, Glasgow, Scottish Labour, Date Lodged: 19/11/2014 Show Full Question >>

Further information

Email our Public Information Service for more information.