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Meeting of the Parliament 28 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 28, 2014
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)

I commend the Scottish Government on its preparedness in relation to this matter. There are various places where, in theory, Ebola could spread, such as schools and higher education establishments in Scotland. Whilst, theoretically, the chances are very limited, has the cabinet secretary been in contact with further and higher educations and schools to talk about the actions that they would have to take to play their part?



Meeting of the Parliament 28 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 28, 2014
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)

I have listened carefully and with interest to Mr Rowley’s speech. He mentioned powers for a purpose—a phrase that we have heard quite a lot. It is estimated that 100,000 children have been pushed into poverty. Many of my constituents would welcome having power here over aspects of the tax credit system, because the reforms to that system have pushed many families into poverty. Many of my constituents who voted no would also welcome that power being devolved. Is Mr Rowley open-minded about more detailed and deeper aspects of the welfare system being thoroughly devolved to this place to protect our most vulnerable constituents and families?



Meeting of the Parliament 09 October 2014 : Thursday, October 09, 2014
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)

My constituents in the Glasgow region will welcome the £81 million pledge to tackle some of the worst aspects of UK welfare reform, including by fully mitigating the bedroom tax and supporting the Scottish welfare fund. Will the cabinet secretary also do all that he can, within the constraints of this Parliament, to defend our working poor, who are under attack from the current, right-wing Tory UK Government?



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)

I am an MSP for Glasgow and the deputy convener of the Health and Sport Committee.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

The committee took evidence last week from the Mental Health Tribunal for Scotland and the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland. I asked why a short-term detention certificate lasts for 28 days and whether the period could be reduced. Both witnesses broadly agreed that it takes between three and four weeks to get all the relevant reports ready so that an informed assessment can be made, so the number has not been plucked out of thin air. On balance, do the witnesses think that 28 days is about right?

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We also heard last week that 70 to 80 per cent of tribunal hearings take place within the 28 days plus the five-day extension period, so the proposed additional five days would not be needed in those cases. It was suggested to us that the main reason for an extension from five to 10 days is to reduce the need for the repeat tribunals that happen in 20 to 30 per cent of cases and to give relevant family members more time to make statements and representations.

I suppose that that brings us to the crux of the matter. There is always a balance to be struck in relation to the rights of individuals who are detained. Last week we heard that 28 days is about right and that the intention behind the proposed extension is not to let people work right up to the wire but to reduce the number of repeat tribunals and give families more time to have a say. Do the professionals who are here today concur with that view? The committee has to make a judgment.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

Karin Campbell has hit the nail on the head. First, the committee will of course explore the numbers that were outlined, whether it is a question of 20 additional reports or 493. We will look at the pressures, at workforce planning and at recruitment retention. Those points matter, and we will be asking the relevant people in Government and elsewhere the questions.

The bigger picture is: are those reports required? Are they essential? Are they highly desirable? Are they just a slight advance on how things are now? I have not really heard from people about how desirable the reports would be. I want to make a judgment on whether that is the right thing to do, and then I want to make a judgment on how we resource it and enable it to happen.

I feel that, so far, the discussion has been on whether we can resource the reports and enable them to happen. We will look at those figures as a committee, and I am sure that we will make a well-rounded decision on that issue in due course. However, we have not heard enough—apart from Ms Campbell—about whether that step is desirable. I would like some information about how desirable or otherwise it is.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

I seek clarification on a couple of points. I have no idea whether the proposed extension to the time for detaining people is the right thing to do; I have no preconceived views on the matter. I was not sure whether Mr Barron was saying that the period should not be extended. The Mental Welfare Commission said that we probably should not extend it, as it does not think that it will lead to any greater involvement from the RMOs—rather than saying that extending the period would necessarily be a bad thing in itself, or that it would not have the intended consequence. I might have picked you up wrongly, but are you suggesting that the current power to detain should not exist? I got the sense that you were saying that it is not a positive thing in the first place.

Secondly, my understanding is that only some nurses—mental health nurses and learning disability nurses—have the power to detain. Have such nurses across Scotland taken a view on the matter and raised concerns specifically about the current two-hour detention? If they have, the committee would wish to know about that.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

I will digest that point. I am not trying to be awkward, but I was not clear about the point that you were making.

A point was made earlier about detention being given in 74 per cent of cases once the RMO had arrived; often that was just a short-term detention, but it was given.

In the minority of cases, in which detention would be required for the safety of the individual, what would be the consequence if the nurse did not have the power to detain? I accept that the more power of detention that is given, the more the rights and freedoms of individuals in society are infringed. However, there has to be a balance because, at the same time, we are seeking to protect vulnerable individuals. Is there any benefit in an extension from two to three hours? I am trying to tease that out.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

There is no reason for asking this other than that I am interested to know. When you talk about taking the views of senior nurses throughout Scotland, has the RCN done a deep survey of nurses in mental health, for example nurses on the wards in mental health units and those who work hands on, at the coalface, with learning disabilities? Are you describing a grass-roots view or a senior clinician view? It may be both, which is fine, but I want to get a flavour of where the view is coming from.



Health and Sport Committee 07 October 2014 : Tuesday, October 07, 2014
Bob Doris

That is really helpful. Thank you.

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S4M-11304.3 Michael Russell: Addressing the Attainment Gap in Scottish Schools—As an amendment to mo
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S4M-11304 Liz Smith: Addressing the Attainment Gap in Scottish Schools—That the Parliament believes
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S4M-11123 Joe FitzPatrick on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau: Business Motion—That the Parliament
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S4M-11114.2 Kenny MacAskill: Policing—As an amendment to motion S4M-11114 in the name of Graeme Pear
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S4M-11114 Graeme Pearson: Policing—That the Parliament acknowledges that policing in Scotland contin
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S4M-11116.1.1 Patrick Harvie: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to amendment S4M-11116.1 in the name
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S4M-11116.1 Nicola Sturgeon: Scotland’s Future—As an amendment to motion S4M-11116 in the name of Jo
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